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Permalink Reply by EMC (SS) on October 26, 2010 at 5:30am

NACCS Quarterdeck – 850-452-2490

This is the number to the quarterdeck at his training command and they should be able to direct you to someone that can help you from there.
I do recommend that your daughter-in-law seek some counseling from Fleet and Family Support Center (FFSC) and/or Navy and Marine Corps Relief Society. They can really help set her up for success as a military spouse as it carries a variety of complex burdens that don't exist elsewhere and can guide her on her way. They also provide a constant support system where ever she is stationed and it will benefit her to start a relationship with them now.

Good luck,
Very Respectfully,
EMC (SS)

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Permalink Reply by Craig on October 27, 2010 at 2:57am

I totally agree with EMC(SS) with what he's saying. The wife needs to talk to the Ombudsman. The Ombudsman has a direct link to the XO & CO. They will be able to give him the answer.
https://www.cnic.navy.mil/Pensacola/BaseSupport/OmbudsmanProgram/Co...

The only person that can take away his liberty that long is the CO. In the Navy we have a tool called EMI that we can use to wake sailors up when they do something wrong. EMI can only last long enough to correct the deficiency (usually 1 week). If his liberty has been suspended for 3 months, somethings wrong. Here is the various tools we can use to wake sailors up.
http://www.tpub.com/content/advancement/14145/css/14145_116.htm

Just curious, did he move his wife to Pensacola on his own dime, or did the Navy pay for her to be there? Not that it matters, but I can see someone in his Chain-of-Command saying that AW is a really hard school, and that having his wife their might mess up his focus on becoming an AW.

Secondly, where is he at within his training pipeline? He must be pretty far along if he already knows he's a AWR (Tactical) flying in the new SH-60R.

I hope things work out. I find this whole topic strange, but like EMC(SS) said, she needs to let her voice known.

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Permalink Reply by Hans, The Old Salt on October 28, 2010 at 11:56pm

This situation doesn't add up at all to me, and I don't think that your son is being totally forthright with you.

Don't know where in Texas you live, but a weekend drive to Pensacola would be on my agenda, just to scope out the situation in person.

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Permalink Reply by Mr. Fleetwood on October 29, 2010 at 12:26am

He missed a day on base, did not call or anything and when he showed up the next day, of course he was in trouble and that is when they pulled his chit to be able to live at home. However, since then he has done everything he should have, he has passed all of his test, moving up in rank. I think the main issue has been, he just has not known who to really talk to about his situation. He was told it would be for a couple of weeks, then he would get it back but he did not want to get into trouble for asking again and again, so he has just let it go.. Now that he is trying to move back home, it has been three months and he is having a hard time getting it done.

Hans, The Old Salt said:

This situation doesn't add up at all to me, and I don't think that your son is being totally forthright with you.

Don't know where in Texas you live, but a weekend drive to Pensacola would be on my agenda, just to scope out the situation in person.

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Permalink Reply by Mr. Fleetwood on October 29, 2010 at 9:45pm

thank you for your comments, my son got his brownbagger chit today!!! He is home tonite!

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Permalink Reply by Craig on October 31, 2010 at 2:56am

Glad it worked out.... Just curious, I've been around the Navy for along time and I never heard the term "Brownbagger". I that an airdale term? How did it come about?

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Permalink Reply by EMC (SS) on November 13, 2010 at 4:16am

Congratulations, I am glad it all worked out.

Mr. Fleetwood said:

thank you for your comments, my son got his brownbagger chit today!!! He is home tonite!

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