A run down of how the divisions are formed
Upon their arrival at Recruit Training Command Great Lakes, (RTC) new Seaman Recruits will go through a simple sort. Recruits who joined with a future Musician (MU) rate as well those with music, flag/drill, or ROTC experience are assigned to a 900 division if the need is there.
Those male recruits under a Spec Ops contract are assigned to a 800 division. Female recruits who join under Spec Ops contracts such as AIRR or EOD are added to regular divisions. There are usually only 25 or fewer 800 divisions a year, therefore every Pass In Review group will have one, but it is possible for a group to have more than one 800 division.
One to four divisions fill in a day. Those Seaman Recruits that will not be in an 800 or 900 division are assigned to divisions randomly upon their arrival at RTC.
Having an all-female division is very rare. Females are almost always placed in what is called an integrated division, which simply means a division is made up of both males and females. Males are either assigned to an integrated division or one that is all male.
At times a division can fill and there will still be Recruits waiting to be placed in a division. These Recruits are held and will be a part of the next division that is formed.
Other times there can be a division that still needs more recruits to be full. That division must wait until the next group of Recruits arrives to be filled. This group is called a Push Division. Recruits in a Push Division have to wait for more recruits to arrive to fill the division. Some of the Recruits in those divisions will be at the RTC for 7 1/2 weeks, 8 Fridays, rather than the norm of 8 1/2 weeks, 9 Fridays. At times there will be Recruits who will need to be held over to help fill later divisions. These recruits will spend 9 ½ weeks, 10 Fridays at RTC. This is more likely to happen when Recruits arrive in November and December due to the large number of Recruits that can ship early due to the Navy Recruiting Holiday Stand-down. It may also possible happen when there is a week without a PIR or if a storm prevents recruits from arriving on the day they were sworn in.
Being in a Push Division does not mean that a Recruit will not receive all the training needed to be a Sailor!! At the end of training divisions will go through Battle Stations 2-4 divisions at a time, therefore the divisions of a PIR group are staggered in training. They do not start training at the same time so they will not finish at the same time but they will graduate from Boot Camp together.
The first 4-11 days after a new recruit arrives are Processing Days (P-days). P-days can last up to 14 days for some recruits if they have to wait for additional recruits to arrive to fill a division. Although recruits are assigned to a ship and division upon arrival, they do not move to that ship until P-days are over. During P days they will go through dental and medical screening, have the moment of truth, and have briefings about the days ahead. They also go through the dreaded haircut. They are issued their NWUs, blue camo, but during P-days they will wear what is affectionately called smurfs, the Navy issued sweat shirt and sweat pants, until their uniforms are returned to them with their name tapes sewn on. They are also issued 2 sets of PT gear, Navy shorts and a yellow shirt. They have to wear the PT gear under their smurfs.
During P-days they are issued a Recruit card. This is like a gift card with $150 on it that is deducted from their paycheck. They use these cards to buy hygiene and other supplies at the Navy Exchange. P-Days concludes with a commissioning ceremony in which each division receives its guidon, the divisional flag displaying division number. This commissioning ceremony marks the official beginning of training.
There are usually anywhere from 5-15 Divisions in a graduation group and they can arrive at RTC over a week a part. Since they are on a staggered schedule, they all get the same training though
There are three sequences of divisions number at RTC: 800-series divisions are the divisions for the special warfare candidates, and include SEAL candidates, SWCC, and several other classifications.
900-series divisions are the performance divisions, and includes three types: the Band/Bluejacket Choir/Drill team, otherwise known as "Triple Threat" (the musicians, singers, and drill team), the "Sticks" (those who carry the state flags), and the Ship Staff/Honor Guard.
All other divisions numerically start at 001 at the beginning of the fiscal year and are numerically consecutive until the next fiscal year starts. Thus division 001 is placed in TG 01. Division 801 is the first 800 Division and Division 901 is the first 900 division and they continue with consecutive numbers as well until the next fiscal year as do the lower number divisions.
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Permalink Reply by NavyDads Admin (Paul) on
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that would be odd....historically SWCC candidates were in 800-divisions
James said:Hello all,
My son is shipping March 29, with a SWCC contract. His recruiter recently told him he would not be assigned to an 800 division. Is this common? Will it set him behind entering Pre-BUDS. He has worked very hard to get to peak physical condition in preparation for Boot Camp and is worried he will lose some condition not being in an 800 division. Any information is appreciated.
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Permalink Reply by Kevin Nor Cal on
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James - correct - there are no more 800 divisions at GL. Quite frankly, even with the 800 divisions and extra PT, everyone lost a lot of their fitness in boot. I am only going by my son's experience from a couple of years ago. The exit standards on the PST from NSW prep aren't difficult, so hopefully your son will be able to make it to Coronado. With the plan to move NSW prep to Coronado, they are changing much about the pipeline.
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One thing to add about covid, if your son or daughter ships to boot camp and is NOT vaccinated, then will be put in a 2 week quarantine before starting basic training. Otherwise divisions will form on the first Monday after arrival and expect a scripted phone call on the first day in Great Lakes RTC, then a letter with anticipated graduation date. Another later letter will be sent inviting 2 guests for Pass in Review, requiring vaccination and security information. My son graduated September 3, 2021 with a class of 861 graduates and saw a lot of guests being turned away due to non-vaccination proof or brought more than two guests.
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With DOD directive that ALL military (active and reserve) MUST be vaxed, are recruits heading to RTC unvaxed?
Stephen Gravini said:One thing to add about covid, if your son or daughter ships to boot camp and is NOT vaccinated, then will be put in a 2 week quarantine before starting basic training. Otherwise divisions will form on the first Monday after arrival and expect a scripted phone call on the first day in Great Lakes RTC, then a letter with anticipated graduation date. Another later letter will be sent inviting 2 guests for Pass in Review, requiring vaccination and security information. My son graduated September 3, 2021 with a class of 861 graduates and saw a lot of guests being turned away due to non-vaccination proof or brought more than two guests.
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According to my son, who shipped out on July 1, yes, RTC Great Lakes was putting recruits in a 14 day quarantine period if they were not vaccinated. It was part of his scripted call home upon arrival at RTC, that he would be quarantined if he could not provide proof of vaccination. His recruiter also told him of the 14 day quarantine. I don't think the DOD directive applies if they have not entered boot camp because their active duty/reserve date starts on the first day of boot camp. Recruits receive lots of vaccines at boot camp and am sure covid vaccine is one of them if unvaccinated. Again, not sure, of current policy, just sharing my son's experience, but yes there were recruits showing up unvaccinated, along with guests for graduation who were denied entry because they were not vaccinated. At graduation, EVERYONE wore face mask, even recruits and the social distancing rule was in effect (but not strictly enforced because there just wasn't enough room).
NavyDads Admin (Paul) said:With DOD directive that ALL military (active and reserve) MUST be vaxed, are recruits heading to RTC unvaxed?
Stephen Gravini said:One thing to add about covid, if your son or daughter ships to boot camp and is NOT vaccinated, then will be put in a 2 week quarantine before starting basic training. Otherwise divisions will form on the first Monday after arrival and expect a scripted phone call on the first day in Great Lakes RTC, then a letter with anticipated graduation date. Another later letter will be sent inviting 2 guests for Pass in Review, requiring vaccination and security information. My son graduated September 3, 2021 with a class of 861 graduates and saw a lot of guests being turned away due to non-vaccination proof or brought more than two guests.
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Permalink Reply by Trevor Gipson on
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Any word if this 14-day ROM is still in effect for someone starting boot camp that is unvaccinated here in August 2022?
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Permalink Reply by NavyDads CoAdmin Jim Gramza on
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I briefly looked around on the RTC web site and could find nothing about it. I do know that Great Lakes has gone back to face mask for all indoor activities, but no mention of ROM.
Trevor Gipson said:Any word if this 14-day ROM is still in effect for someone starting boot camp that is unvaccinated here in August 2022?
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Thanks. Great info.
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Other than 500, 800 and 900, is there any significance to the division number in which a recruit is placed? 400 for instance?
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800-series divisions are the divisions for the special warfare candidates, and include SEAL candidates, SWCC, and several other classifications.
900-series divisions are the performance divisions, and includes three types: the Band/Bluejacket Choir/Drill team, otherwise known as "Triple Threat" (the musicians, singers, and drill team), the "Sticks" (those who carry the state flags), and the Ship Staff/Honor Guard.
All other divisions numerically start at 001 at the beginning of the fiscal year and are numerically consecutive until the next fiscal year starts. Thus division 001 is placed in TG 01. Division 801 is the first 800 Division and Division 901 is the first 900 division and they continue with consecutive numbers as well until the next fiscal year as do the lower number divisions.
Buzz said:Other than 500, 800 and 900, is there any significance to the division number in which a recruit is placed? 400 for instance?
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As an aside, I have heard that the 800 divisions (and dive mo) might be re-instituted.
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I was "444" when I went through Aug-Nov of 1995. My son is 433 (Sep-Dec)
NavyDads Admin (Paul) said:no-
800-series divisions are the divisions for the special warfare candidates, and include SEAL candidates, SWCC, and several other classifications.
900-series divisions are the performance divisions, and includes three types: the Band/Bluejacket Choir/Drill team, otherwise known as "Triple Threat" (the musicians, singers, and drill team), the "Sticks" (those who carry the state flags), and the Ship Staff/Honor Guard.
All other divisions numerically start at 001 at the beginning of the fiscal year and are numerically consecutive until the next fiscal year starts. Thus division 001 is placed in TG 01. Division 801 is the first 800 Division and Division 901 is the first 900 division and they continue with consecutive numbers as well until the next fiscal year as do the lower number divisions.
Buzz said:Other than 500, 800 and 900, is there any significance to the division number in which a recruit is placed? 400 for instance?
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