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Hello,

My son left for Bootcamp Jan 18th. We just received his letter about PIR, including his mailing address. However on P2 of the letter it states " Recruits may not receive any food items due to diet and sanitation concerns". Is this correct? I recall when I went thru Boot' March of '93, I was allowed to receive candy/cookies. Has this changed? No cookies/candy from home?

Also, my wife seems to think that although we have four tickets to see the PIR in person, additional relations may "watch the PIR on a bigscreen in the chapel". I don't remember this, but that could be old age creeping up on me. Is she correct, or has she misunderstood something from the 'net?

Yours,

Neil Murray

ex-GSM2, USN

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you may only send things that will fit into a flat envelope only.   no glitter or musical cards.  your sailor will list the guests he would like at PIR....that is limited to 4 guests unless there are 13 or more division in which case the limit will be three guests.  There is no slack in that policy as set by RTC.

This was posted by RTC on 12 August 2015:

Depending on the number of divisions graduating, each recruit is allowed four guests when the Training Group contains 12 divisions or less or three guests when the Training Group contains 13 or more divisions. Children age 2 and younger do not have to be on the access list and do not count against the three or four guests. Veterans and active duty members must be on the access list and count as one of the three or four guests. We treat all recruits equally and there are no exceptions.

We do offer an overflow area for extra guests in our chapel at Recruit Training Command (RTC). However, this is not intended as an open invitation to bring several extra guests as our #1 concern is the comfort and safety of our staff and guests on our military installation. We offer the overflow area as a courtesy to the extra guests, however, there are limitations which one may wish to consider when deciding whether or not the chapel option is for them.

To make it absolutely clear, there is not a limit as to the amount of extra guests you can bring to the chapel, but please consider the following information and keep in mind that we have very limited staff to accommodate extra guests, so we please ask to keep your extra guests at an absolute minimum. If this courtesy gets abused by those attempting to bring an excessive amount of extra guests, restrictions will be put in place. Again, please respect our request to keep your guests to only a few.

  • Children younger than 18 years old must be accompanied by an adult 18 or older and they cannot be left alone. All guests must have a photo I.D. just as the guests on the access must have. If you do not have a photo I.D., you will not be allowed to go to the chapel.
  • There is no guarantee that space will be available as there is a capacity limit in the chapel.
  • Extra guests will check in at the visitors center and wait in a holding room before being escorted as a group to the chapel which is about a 1/4-mile walk. Those having difficulty walking may wish to reconsider going to the chapel as we do not provide any type of shuttle service , and the use of wheelchairs is limited as the wheelchairs are also used by guests in the drill hall. If you cannot walk far distances, then the chapel option may not be for you.
  • Once inside the chapel, guests are not permitted to leave until the conclusion of the ceremony as they are not allowed to wander around our restricted base unescorted during the ceremony.
  • Guests are required to remain in the Chapel A (the main chapel area) and main foyer area.
  • Chapel staff is unable to accommodate any guest needs, requests or complaints.
  • There are no vending machines available in the chapel and food and beverages are not permitted (except for bottled water), inside the chapel. Those with small children may wish to keep this in mind in addition to the fact that they will be sitting there for up to three and a half hours. The earlier you arrive, the longer you will be waiting.
  • While we do offer live streaming of the ceremony, there is no guarantee that it will be up and running. Should the system be down due to technical difficulties, the extra guests must still remain in the chapel until after the ceremony has concluded when they will then be escorted back to the visitors center.
  • If your recruit is staying in Great Lakes for "A" School, the extra guests most likely will not even see the recruit until after those recruits have checked into their new barracks on the main base immediately following the ceremony. That check-in process takes a few hours and the recruits will not be ready to be picked up until mid-afternoon. They will then have the remainder of the weekend for liberty but must return to the base each evening. If this is the case for your recruit, you may wish to consider remaining at your hotel as many offer viewing of the live stream in their lobbies making it much more convenient for extra guests to remain there as opposed to coming onto the base.
  • Recruits are not allowed to "borrow" seats from another recruit as plans often change and a recruit that expected no guests on graduation day may suddenly learn that his or her family can attend; only to remember that they have given their seats away to another recruit. Recruits also are vouching for the guests they invite onto the base and to list another recruit's guests — of whom they do not know — heightens RTC's security risk as well as that of the recruit who vouched for them. Recruits are informed of this rule and are expected to abide by it. Please do not ask them to disobey the orders given to them by asking them to add another recruit's guests.

Please note we show a live video feed of each PIR on the main page of this site (unless there are technical issues) and numerous hotels also do in the Great Lakes area


Thank You!


NavyDads Admin (Paul) said:

you may only send things that will fit into a flat envelope only.   no glitter or musical cards.  your sailor will list the guests he would like at PIR....that is limited to 4 guests unless there are 13 or more division in which case the limit will be three guests.  There is no slack in that policy as set by RTC.

This was posted by RTC on 12 August 2015:

Depending on the number of divisions graduating, each recruit is allowed four guests when the Training Group contains 12 divisions or less or three guests when the Training Group contains 13 or more divisions. Children age 2 and younger do not have to be on the access list and do not count against the three or four guests. Veterans and active duty members must be on the access list and count as one of the three or four guests. We treat all recruits equally and there are no exceptions.

We do offer an overflow area for extra guests in our chapel at Recruit Training Command (RTC). However, this is not intended as an open invitation to bring several extra guests as our #1 concern is the comfort and safety of our staff and guests on our military installation. We offer the overflow area as a courtesy to the extra guests, however, there are limitations which one may wish to consider when deciding whether or not the chapel option is for them.

To make it absolutely clear, there is not a limit as to the amount of extra guests you can bring to the chapel, but please consider the following information and keep in mind that we have very limited staff to accommodate extra guests, so we please ask to keep your extra guests at an absolute minimum. If this courtesy gets abused by those attempting to bring an excessive amount of extra guests, restrictions will be put in place. Again, please respect our request to keep your guests to only a few.

  • Children younger than 18 years old must be accompanied by an adult 18 or older and they cannot be left alone. All guests must have a photo I.D. just as the guests on the access must have. If you do not have a photo I.D., you will not be allowed to go to the chapel.
  • There is no guarantee that space will be available as there is a capacity limit in the chapel.
  • Extra guests will check in at the visitors center and wait in a holding room before being escorted as a group to the chapel which is about a 1/4-mile walk. Those having difficulty walking may wish to reconsider going to the chapel as we do not provide any type of shuttle service , and the use of wheelchairs is limited as the wheelchairs are also used by guests in the drill hall. If you cannot walk far distances, then the chapel option may not be for you.
  • Once inside the chapel, guests are not permitted to leave until the conclusion of the ceremony as they are not allowed to wander around our restricted base unescorted during the ceremony.
  • Guests are required to remain in the Chapel A (the main chapel area) and main foyer area.
  • Chapel staff is unable to accommodate any guest needs, requests or complaints.
  • There are no vending machines available in the chapel and food and beverages are not permitted (except for bottled water), inside the chapel. Those with small children may wish to keep this in mind in addition to the fact that they will be sitting there for up to three and a half hours. The earlier you arrive, the longer you will be waiting.
  • While we do offer live streaming of the ceremony, there is no guarantee that it will be up and running. Should the system be down due to technical difficulties, the extra guests must still remain in the chapel until after the ceremony has concluded when they will then be escorted back to the visitors center.
  • If your recruit is staying in Great Lakes for "A" School, the extra guests most likely will not even see the recruit until after those recruits have checked into their new barracks on the main base immediately following the ceremony. That check-in process takes a few hours and the recruits will not be ready to be picked up until mid-afternoon. They will then have the remainder of the weekend for liberty but must return to the base each evening. If this is the case for your recruit, you may wish to consider remaining at your hotel as many offer viewing of the live stream in their lobbies making it much more convenient for extra guests to remain there as opposed to coming onto the base.
  • Recruits are not allowed to "borrow" seats from another recruit as plans often change and a recruit that expected no guests on graduation day may suddenly learn that his or her family can attend; only to remember that they have given their seats away to another recruit. Recruits also are vouching for the guests they invite onto the base and to list another recruit's guests — of whom they do not know — heightens RTC's security risk as well as that of the recruit who vouched for them. Recruits are informed of this rule and are expected to abide by it. Please do not ask them to disobey the orders given to them by asking them to add another recruit's guests.

Please note we show a live video feed of each PIR on the main page of this site (unless there are technical issues) and numerous hotels also do in the Great Lakes area

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