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Mr West,
I know it has been a long time.How is your son doing? My daughter is expected to be there around the 3rd or 4th of March as an AM (Aircraft Mechanic). Can you tell me how are things going for him. I was told that the program is 5 weeks, however I do not know what follows. C school Command assignment, both? I would be interested to know. Thanks
My son arrived in Pensacola in November 2012 and didnt class up for his first class until feb/mar. That was his first 4 week class for AT (which he finished first in his class, proud lol). Now the second class doesnt start until Apr 11th for 6 weeks, then who knows where is orders might take him. I have heard he might have to sit and wait for orders to ship also? Guess the hurry up and wait hasnt changed since I was in the Army 1966.
NavyDads Co-Admin, Jim said:
Jim, it is not unusual for a sailor to sit for a couple of months before they class up. The Navy does this so there are enough sailors in the pipe line to fill the classes as they become available. Let's say that your son was the only guy who got there for the next class for that rate. They would not just put one guy in a class. By the time there is enough of the same rate to fill a class, the previous class will have moved on to the fleet. My son is an AWO. It was darn near three month before he classed up. He can always volunteer for duty to keep occupied.
Jim said:My son's PIR was on 8Feb2013 and he arrived at NATTC on 9Feb2013 (6 weeks ago) for ABH A-school. He has yet to get a class up date. He was told "maybe sometime in April". It is a little disappointing looking at these hundreds of 18 and 19 year-olds without any training at all yet, sitting around, waiting for months, with no real responsibilities, nowhere to go, blowing their money in the NEX on electronics and trying to not get in trouble. I understand the 'hurry up and wait' SOP. But, for months? He was told, before basic, that his ship date to Great Lakes was decided upon based on his 'A' school class up date. This was obviously bad information. But, he and I are both wondering when he will class up? Is it normal to put them on hold for months at a time after their PIR? It seems as though they are squashing moral before they even start their career.
I am glad I found this discussion. My son arrived at NATTC March 24th as an ATI. I have been very curious about the possible wait time he will go through before he begins training. It is good to know he can volunteer for various duties to keep him occupied. My concern is the same as some of you other guys. I hope all the incredible training and transformation he went through does not diminish due to lack of activity and boredom (an idle mind is the devil's workshop). I will share this with him and encourage him to stay active.
UPDATE: As I said before, my ABH son arrived at NATTC on 9Feb2013. The class list was posted last evening (Sunday 31March2013) for classes beginning this morning (1April2013) and his name was on the list. So, he started his 6-week 'A' school today, in the 8th week after he arrived. He was on liberty and got back to find no list posted at about 1500 hrs, then called at about 1730 hrs to say that they had just posted the list and his name was on it to begin class in the morning.
Jim said:
My son's PIR was on 8Feb2013 and he arrived at NATTC on 9Feb2013 (6 weeks ago) for ABH A-school. He has yet to get a class up date. He was told "maybe sometime in April". It is a little disappointing looking at these hundreds of 18 and 19 year-olds without any training at all yet, sitting around, waiting for months, with no real responsibilities, nowhere to go, blowing their money in the NEX on electronics and trying to not get in trouble. I understand the 'hurry up and wait' SOP. But, for months? He was told, before basic, that his ship date to Great Lakes was decided upon based on his 'A' school class up date. This was obviously bad information. But, he and I are both wondering when he will class up? Is it normal to put them on hold for months at a time after their PIR? It seems as though they are squashing moral before they even start their career.
Delete As Jim said several months of waiting is common. When new sailors arrive the are deemed phase 3. This means that they have to complete the check in, attend the base and school indoctrination class, and get watch stander quals signed off. As the sailor progresses through this process privileges are added. For example if my memory serves me correctly pahse 3 is no civilian clothes......phase 2 is civilian clothes but no over night off base......phase 1 includes off base with overnight stays. Make sure to wait till your sailor gets to phase 1 and check and make sure that you are not arriving on your sailor's duty weekend.
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