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"Nuclear Sub vs Nuclear Aircraft Carrier"

 

My son is still at boot camp then off to Nuke school. He is considering signing up for sub duty preferring to be "on/off 3 months" at a time vs carrier "6 months on/off". He is engaged (to a wonderful young lady that we all love) and will be married by the time he graduates nuke school. Of course they want to be able to see and communicate with each other more often. Are there any resources you can suggest, that can shed light on the sub vs carrier? Specifically;

1. Are there any videos that might show life on each?
2. Are there any members who know sailors that served on both?
3. My son has also mentioned higher pay on a sub...any idea what the difference is?

I want them to have as much info as possible before they make this decision. My concern is that before leaving for boot camp my son stated that he could not imagine being "cooped up" on a sub, not being able to see the light of day, smell fresh air, etc, and we all agreed. Now that they have been apart 2 months, they are thinking that being apart 3 months vs 6 seems more tolerable. I am sure there's more to the decision than the time and pay difference. Thank you for any input. Mark 

 

 

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The PBS series "Carrier" is available on Youtube for free viewing.

http://www.youtube.com/show?p=lwRWg1czcnk&tracker=show_av

My son will PIR this coming Friday before moving on to GC to begin his Nuke journey. He'll start with ET A school.

This particular thread really interests me, because I assume that almost everyone posting here is referring to a nuke they know. How often do nukes actually get shore liberty while on a cruise? There are other sites where current and former nukes talk about how miserable the job is because, while most everyone else on the boat can shut down whatever they work on and go ashore, nukes have to tend to the reactor and rarely get that opportunity. True?

I actually tried to steer my son toward AECF but he was determined to go this route. Of course, I'll fully support him; I'm just curious as to what he's going to experience in the fleet. Thanks to all your sailors for their service!

My daughter - a carrier nuke -- look at the Abe Lincoln thread or their Facebook page -- is having a good time in Thailand.  If this deployment is like the last one the next 4 months she will get to see sunshine every other weekend -- not too bad.  As a nuke, she doesn't have to put on her whites and stand there while the Admiral entertains diplomats and ambassadors on the hangar deck.

When they get to the Gulf -- the only enemy for a nuke is boredom -- below decks always.

Before they deployed at least a month of mostly onboard duty -- getting everything ready for inspection etc. Something like 24hr on 8on 8on one day off.  Still don't understand what the 5 and dime is.

A carrier has at least 6 O-6 officers on board. And the Admiral.  3000 Sailors not counting the 2000 air wing.

Totally different world to submarines.

Have viewed most of the videos mentioned above. Some good, but none really capture the isolation and boredom, and responsibility.

Hope this helps

R

Hey Ward -- should have mentioned -- power school is the toughest -- by far -- A school is a doddle, prototype is just a hard long slog -- but they get through it -- give all the support you can -- but your Sailor will be busting his buns at Power School and not have very many minutes to reply to words of support.  He will be working very hard indeed. Give all the support you possibly  can.  It is a tough one.

R

Thanks, Ric. That's good information.

Hey Ward. Try to make it to your son's power school graduation. It is a milestone in his career and Charleston is a great city to visit.

Also, send him lots of care packages. The restaurants on or near base get old real quick.

Congratulations on your son's achievements!

Tell your sailor to join Groupon for Charleston. They email a coupon for usually 50% off for restaurants, fast food, attractions etc. Sometimes it beats the military discount when there is one available.

I will definitely try to attend power school grad.

Thanks for the Groupon advice, too.

I see a lot about Subs but how about a pro and con about Carriers.  My son wants Carriers.  By the way how many nukes on a sub v. carrier?

Don't know exactly but subs have only a dozen or two dozen Nukes.

Carriers -- where my daughter works -- they have a hundred or so Nukes.  When the ship posted their division picture on the Facebook they had to do it in parts.  Subs vs carriers -- like small town vs city.

A co-worker was a bubblehead a-ganger -- it is totally different.

Sub -- the CO is an O6 or an O5 and there are only  a few hundred ratings aboard.

Carrier -- the CO is an O6 and there are another half-dozen O6s aboard plus the Admiral plus 3000 -- right three thousand sailors and two thou air wing. Humongous.

Reactor department on a carrier has near as much crew as the whole crew of a sub.

Totally different world.

"Bubbleheads" vs "targets" or "skimmers" -- don't want to get into that controversy.

Have to add @Ward & zazzws --

Be there for Power school grad.  Be there!

Not only is chuckville a great place to visit, but your sailor getting through Power School is something to really celebrate.  Them getting through 6 months of hundred hour weeks and not forgetting a single atom -- celebrate! Really.

R

Thank you Ric this was indeed helpful

Ric Pallson said:

Don't know exactly but subs have only a dozen or two dozen Nukes.

Carriers -- where my daughter works -- they have a hundred or so Nukes.  When the ship posted their division picture on the Facebook they had to do it in parts.  Subs vs carriers -- like small town vs city.

A co-worker was a bubblehead a-ganger -- it is totally different.

Sub -- the CO is an O6 or an O5 and there are only  a few hundred ratings aboard.

Carrier -- the CO is an O6 and there are another half-dozen O6s aboard plus the Admiral plus 3000 -- right three thousand sailors and two thou air wing. Humongous.

Reactor department on a carrier has near as much crew as the whole crew of a sub.

Totally different world.

"Bubbleheads" vs "targets" or "skimmers" -- don't want to get into that controversy.

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