Anybody:What are the differences, between being assigned to a ship or squadron? What do most Airdales perfer?

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Permalink Reply by NavyDads Admin (Paul) on January 24, 2010 at 7:13pm

briefly--- is assigned to a ship you stay with the ship. My son works in the tire and wheel shop as part of AMID on the Theodore Roosevelt...as such he is assigend to the ship and even though it is dry dock for the next 3 years (reactor refuel and refit) he is assigend to security detail guarding the ship. If you are squardon assigned, you go where the squardon goes...when the Roosevlelt cam base from cruise this year, all the squadrons packed up and moved to their next duty assignement---perhaps on another carrier, perhaps on a base somewhere. Can't give you a preference--- how about some other 'Dales out there......

Permalink Reply by Otto Mueller on January 24, 2010 at 7:28pm

echo Paul's comments for the most part. My son is AIMD on the Truman. I really believe it depends on the rate. My son is AS and he definitely did not want shore assignment, so squadron was out for him. His AS rate aboard gives you opportunities for other TAD (Temp Assign. Duty) that might be far more interesting than what can be scrounged up on shore according to him.

Permalink Reply by snooky on January 24, 2010 at 8:03pm

Thanks guys, I told you I didn't know anything!! I told my son he needs think about what he may want if he gets a chance to pick an assignment after A school. Johns recruiter is an AO1(AW) he going to ask him at the next dep meeting the differences and what he thinks. The N4D's is really helping my son to, I relay info to him. Thanks again!! PS. If you do get a chance to pick will it state what kind of squardron(fighter ect.) or if a ship,will you know if its going to deploy or dry docked?

Permalink Reply by MarkM on January 24, 2010 at 8:30pm

In the Navy, Airdales, also know as "brown shoes" are the folks that actually work with the planes in one regard or another. Ship's crew are the folks that run the ship. The airdales are assigned to a particular squadron, not a ship. The squadron gets assigned to various carriers (although usually the same one) for deployments. The airdales go wherever the squadron goes and ship's company (crew) stays with it. There are certain aviation rates that are assigned to a carrier as ship's company, such as air traffic controller. I hope this helps.

Permalink Reply by snooky on January 24, 2010 at 8:52pm

My son if he gets through BC and A school will be AO rate. Can this rate be assigned to a ship?

MarkM said:

In the Navy, Airdales, also know as "brown shoes" are the folks that actually work with the planes in one regard or another. Ship's crew are the folks that run the ship. The airdales are assigned to a particular squadron, not a ship. The squadron gets assigned to various carriers (although usually the same one) for deployments. The airdales go wherever the squadron goes and ship's company (crew) stays with it. There are certain aviation rates that are assigned to a carrier as ship's company, such as air traffic controller. I hope this helps.

Permalink Reply by MarkM on January 24, 2010 at 8:55pm

No, that is a squadron rate.

snooky said:

My son if he gets through BC and A school will be AO rate. Can this rate be assigned to a ship?

MarkM said:

In the Navy, Airdales, also know as "brown shoes" are the folks that actually work with the planes in one regard or another. Ship's crew are the folks that run the ship. The airdales are assigned to a particular squadron, not a ship. The squadron gets assigned to various carriers (although usually the same one) for deployments. The airdales go wherever the squadron goes and ship's company (crew) stays with it. There are certain aviation rates that are assigned to a carrier as ship's company, such as air traffic controller. I hope this helps.

Permalink Reply by MarkM on January 24, 2010 at 8:58pm

Snooky, go to Navy.com and about.com/mil

There is lots of info for you there. You can look up his rate and get a description of what he will be doing. You can read for hours on those sites. I do all the time.

Permalink Reply by snooky on January 24, 2010 at 9:03pm

Thanks Mark M. I will do that.

MarkM said:

Snooky, go to Navy.com and about.com/mil

There is lots of info for you there. You can look up his rate and get a description of what he will be doing. You can read for hours on those sites. I do all the time.

Permalink Reply by Brad on January 25, 2010 at 11:32am

A squadron can spend time at their assigned land air base during time waiting for their assignments. Most become assigned to a carrier air wing and deploy when the carrier group goes out, except for the P-3's as Jim mentioned.
My son (AW3) is assigned to HS-14 squardon which is assigned to Atsugi Air Base in Japan, and their helo's fly onto the George Washington when they deploy on tour, the rest of the time they work out of Atsugi.

Permalink Reply by Chuck on January 26, 2010 at 10:26am

The duty station is based on the type and kind of aircraft and its operation purpose.

My son is like Jim's he is assigned to a sqadron of land based aircraft too large for a carrier landing. When they deploy they planes fly to the depolyment air station and the after deployment the planes are flown back to their assigned air staion.

My son's friend is assigned to a fighter squadron at a Naval Air Station. When they deploy he and the squadron are given orders to report to a carrier and they become part of the "Carrier Air Wing". Upon return from deploment his squadron is then reassigned to a hanger on a Naval Air Staion

Many sailor do not get a preference. They are assigned where the need exists.

Permalink Reply by snooky on January 26, 2010 at 3:52pm

Hi, So, your son deploys with the aircraft to the deployment air station than back to duty station?

Chuck said:

The duty station is based on the type and kind of aircraft and its operation purpose.

My son is like Jim's he is assigned to a sqadron of land based aircraft too large for a carrier landing. When they deploy they planes fly to the depolyment air station and the after deployment the planes are flown back to their assigned air staion.

My son's friend is assigned to a fighter squadron at a Naval Air Station. When they deploy he and the squadron are given orders to report to a carrier and they become part of the "Carrier Air Wing". Upon return from deploment his squadron is then reassigned to a hanger on a Naval Air Staion

Many sailor do not get a preference. They are assigned where the need exists.

Permalink Reply by Chuck on January 28, 2010 at 11:01am

Correct, his squdron is due to deploy in about a year.

snooky said:

Hi, So, your son deploys with the aircraft to the deployment air station than back to duty station?

Chuck said:

The duty station is based on the type and kind of aircraft and its operation purpose.

My son is like Jim's he is assigned to a sqadron of land based aircraft too large for a carrier landing. When they deploy they planes fly to the depolyment air station and the after deployment the planes are flown back to their assigned air staion.

My son's friend is assigned to a fighter squadron at a Naval Air Station. When they deploy he and the squadron are given orders to report to a carrier and they become part of the "Carrier Air Wing". Upon return from deploment his squadron is then reassigned to a hanger on a Naval Air Staion

Many sailor do not get a preference. They are assigned where the need exists.

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