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Comment by Mr. Sailorette on November 13, 2011 at 8:38pm

Mark that is terrible news.

Realistically I would rather see him heal fully after such an injury, than to come back too soon and cause permanent damage which could jeopardize his opportunity to serve.

 

If he is NFD he is bound to his bed and cant tell if the sun is even up. so make sure you send lots of letters. I might even try to figure out a way to send brain puzzles, or riddles in your letters.

 

Hes young and has plenty of time. Keep your chin up.

Comment by old Lt on November 13, 2011 at 7:56pm

Hi Mark, one of the things we need to realize is that they, our kids, are adults now and we, as parents, may not be in the loop. The Navy may tell us about phone calls but that may not materialize. My son had the same pneumonia symtoms as the prior poster but we didnt know about it till after PIR. (All Navy bases have that upper and lower respiratory illness factor. Maybe someone should look into it) Justin is doing well in all the other aspects of his training so they are not going to let a smart kid go unless there is something seriously wrong with him. In that case, they will make a decision that may not be what we as parents or what your son will want, but will be in the interest of the service. And if the worst happens, it wont be held against him.

But we are getting ahead of ourselves. He has a fractured leg. It will heal and he will continue on. He will have plenty of time to wait after this and between classing up. In government service you are always going to wait.

In reverse, my son just got married and wanted to wait 6 months. He was told it would be 6 months before moving on to Prototype. Guess what, he is only going to wait 2 months. It is just the nature of the beast.

Justin is going to be just fine. It is us as parents that dont do as well. 

Best regards and dont worry, I have been pretty impressed with the Navy so far. Chris

Comment by mark hartman on November 13, 2011 at 3:36pm

Laura and KS Dad, Thanks so much for the info, ideas, and SUPPORT!

We got a short letter from Justin yesterday (still no phone call), sounds like he's still with 09/014 as he bragged about a perfect 5.0 score on the “zone inspection”, and his division’s 4.88 PFA (physical fitness assessment) that other 09/014‘s had mentioned. He wasn’t able to do the “live fire training” as he’s on crutches. Still says he feels like he "has let us down”...so I sent another letter assuring him that HE HAS NOT!!! 
He says the x-ray (on the stress fracture in right leg) wasn’t “definitive”, so he was to go to VA Hospital on Thur 11-10 for a “nuclear bone scan”…ugh…He still thinks he won’t be able to come home for Christmas (as originally planned). Rebecca and I will go to recruiter tomorrow and see if we can find out more, if we still haven’t gotten a phone call.

Comment by LalaH on November 13, 2011 at 2:49pm

OH -- and YES -- classes for Nuke school start every so often -- they process in, make sure they have final health records and clearances, then proceed to A school, then Power school and the Prototype.  At any point they can get held back to master things, or sidelined and out if they can't do it.  This is one tough program.  Kids that have never had to study in their lives are finding that they now have to.  Sometimes, there's a back up with the Reactors and they have to sideline them and then they take college classes while waiting. This all works towards a college degree that they'll get to finish up later.  They'll be too busy on the ships and subs to pursue much else, but it's an adventure of a lifetime!

Comment by LalaH on November 13, 2011 at 2:45pm

Mark:  BC is the "growing up" time from a boy to a man or girl to young woman.  Who he is after BC will be amazing.  Having to redo BC is not harsh.  He actually has a little extra time to memorize all the stuff he has to know.  It may inconvenience a few other things "planned" in life, but they could've sent him home and Navy life and Nuke school would be a fading dream.  Glad he's not hurt too badly that they'd cut him entirely -- and yes, that happens.  Nuke school will be a buggar bear.  He will need A LOT of support and you won't be hearing from him as often as you like, due to study schedules and other things.  Think of this as training time for both you and him, AND you just got a "vacation" so to speak.  He will contact you as soon as he can. Answer the phone when all those strange numbers show up or are blocked.  It could be him trying to call. :) 

Comment by KS Dad on November 12, 2011 at 7:55am

Hello Mark.

• the Navy has it's own time frame of doing things and it's sometime impossible to understand what that is
• Boot is a time of restricted communications with your sailor and that doesn't change with injury
• in some cases a recruiter can get information that parents can't get
• hurry up and wait is a point of humor that is also so true

I got a call from my Sailor (left on my voice mail on my cell) while he was in boot camp regarding a football injury to his knee. He said the Navy medical department wanted all medical records information on that injury faxed to them immediately. I was thinking the worst that he'd re injured his knee. Fortunately I had a copy of all the physician records at home including the all important Doctors letter that released him for all physical activity.I faxed the documents within the hour.

It turns out that he had not re injured himself. The docs had noted his surgery scar and wanted further information to possibly send him home due to that surgery.

The prompt fax of medical records along with the letter releasing him to full physical use seemed to satisfy the Docs.

My point here is that I did not find out any of the above story until he was in A school for a couple of weeks.

It's your son's duty to serve, it's a parents duty to worry.

Comment by mark hartman on November 11, 2011 at 11:10pm

First of all, HAPPY VETERAN'S DAY TO ALL THAT HAVE SERVED, AND THOSE THAT ARE NOW SERVING!!!
I have a few questions for anyone that can help. My son Justin (09/014) is in basics at Great Lakes. He has an injury which looks like will set him back. We received a letter that he wrote on  Sun Nov. 6, mailed Mon, recvd yesterday- He has a stress fracture in his right leg. He will now have 6-8 weeks physical therapy, and can not graduate with his division (I don't know why he can't participate with the rest of his PIR-???).
At this point, it looks like he will miss Christmas at home (which he was to have), go thru basics again (seems harsh-???), Nuke school will be post-poned (don't know how often they start a new class-???), and wedding date likely delayed due to scheduling.
Worst thing is we never got a phone call (we had been told earlier when we first found out about a "hurt leg" that if it was serious and he needed treatment, they would allow him a "free call home"-???). I just hope we don't have to wait another week for a letter to get to us.
If anyone else from 09/014 gets a call, pls ask if they know anything about his status (if anyone does hear anything, or if you know how this kind of situation has been handled in the past, please feel free to answer here, or send me an email me at- markhartman5@sbcglobal.net).
He says (WRONGLY) that he feels like he has let us down!  Can you imagine??? Does anyone know if we can send recruits a letter by Fed-x, since no mail today, at least he might get it Monday???
I will go by and see if his recruiter knows anything more on Monday, if we still don’t hear from him over the weekend. If anyone does get a phone call from a recruit that knows Justin (tall skinny kid on crutches) please ask them to pass on a message- “We love him and he HAS NOT let us down!”
Thank You to anyone that can answer any of the above!

Comment by Bill on November 10, 2011 at 6:12am

Tampa Bay Ron:  I sent ya a friend req. as I presume you are in Tampa as well.  My son is in MM-A now, and will be flying home to grab his car at Thanksgiving.  Maybe they can share rides/gas/etc at Xmas etc.

Depending on where in the TB area you are, your sailor will be able to come home on liberty vs running a leave chit as we are on edge of 400 mile circle.

Comment by Steven S on November 10, 2011 at 1:47am

I asked my son. Just grad proto Aug. -
He can tell his slpo to schedule an actual appointment instead of sick call in the morning. Or he can schedule it himself and tell his slpo, the
y can't keep him from going.

Now that's from one whos out so he's got bigger nads than he did. Ha. He was sick and on bed rest 4 days during boot so he's been there too. Good luck

Comment by Cheryl on November 9, 2011 at 9:54pm

Soon after arriving at Goose Creek my son developed pneumonia, and at his first visit the medics told him to take mucinex and go back to work. When his fever and pain got unbearable he went back and was diagnosed with pneumonia, so tell him to keep going back. If they do not ever address his issue at all I am not at all sure what he should do. I am not sure what benefits they have at a civilian facility. Tell him to keep going back until they fix it, and if they don't he can go to a hospital if it gets that serious. Tell him to take care of him number one priority. If he is ill and they are not taking care of it, he is not going to perform  the way he needs to in school. They do not baby them there, I personally do not think they get very good medical care at all, but then again you have the ones who will go just because they have the common cold. He can be the best judge, he is the only one who really knows how serious the symptoms that he feels are.

When my son had pneumonia, an officer saw him walking to medical, wearing like winter stuff because his fever was so high and he was freezing. The officer gave him crap because he was wearing that and told him to be man. I would like to kick his butt, haha, because if he had only known I am convinced he would not have said that to my son. At least I hope so.

Just like in the civilian world, if we are told something that we do not think is right, we would seek another opinion. He is the only person who knows how bad he really feels and if they do not address it, and he feels worse, better safe than sorry in my opinion.They have so many stresses while in school and it is only magnified if they are sick during it! I think eventually they will address his medical issue, if he keeps going back. But if they don't and it persists he has other options. 

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