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Comment by Mike Stark on November 9, 2009 at 1:44pm
On previous cartoon link, go to 10/29/09 cartoon
Comment by Mike Stark on November 2, 2009 at 8:36am
There are of course other points of view.

http://cagle.com/politicalcartoons/PCcartoons/zyglis.asp

F-22 discussion is more interesting -- of course we aren't going to blow up the 145 F-22s we already have and the 42 more that are under construction will be completed. The debate is on how many we can afford, and what the mix of aircraft should be. Whatever you think of Obama overall, I think he was very smart to keep Gates around, and this seems to be the typical Gates let's fight the wars we are in now over procuring for the 2025 Chinese threat. And forget North Korea's air force. The bulk of the aircraft are MiG-21 or older, with only 40 MiG-29s that anyone would consider remotely modern.

China's has several hundred Su-27/30 aircraft, we have 2000 plus F-15/16/18s in addition to the F-22s that are already in service. I'm not worried about losing air dominance anytime soon.
Comment by Rex on October 30, 2009 at 5:00pm
Now there is a picture with a thousand words !
Comment by Rex on October 30, 2009 at 4:57pm

Comment by NavyDads Admin (Paul) on October 30, 2009 at 2:28pm
I don't really care if they build the F22, the F35, or the F4867...I'd rather see $3 billion to replace fighters designed in the 60's and built and flown since the early 70's than the estimated $1.5 trillion go to ObamaCare that may well have an adverse effect on the future of my meidcal care as I get closer and closer to retirement age. I personally think we need both..the F22 as a stealth air-to-air fighter with supercruise capability and the F35 as a mulitrole fighter with great air-to-ground capability. What do I know, I'm just a stupid hick chemist from Arizona that destroys the environment by working in the mining industry....and no...I think there were and are folks far more capable than McCain...as far as I was concerned he was the lessor of two evils--- but I could still taste the bile as I pulled the McCain lever.
Comment by SeaHag on June 21, 2009 at 6:54pm
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Comment by SeaHag on June 21, 2009 at 12:43pm
My feeling is that Pravda may be trying to use this as a way of playing on fears of those who already have this opinion of the CIC and his administration. I agree they are far from a credible source.
Comment by SeaHag on June 20, 2009 at 2:05pm
Obama asks men to be better fathers than their own

Obama asks men to be better fathers than their own

By CALVIN WOODWARD – 2 hours ago

WASHINGTON (AP) — Barack Obama got a basketball, his first name and ambition from his father. Little else.

The son gave back more than he received: a lifetime of ruminations about the man who abandoned the family, a memoir named "Dreams from My Father," and endless reflections on his own successes and shortcomings as a parent of Sasha, 8, and Malia, 10.

As a candidate and now president, he's been telling men what sort of father they should be. It's become his Father's Day ritual.

He's asking American men to be better fathers than his own.

The president showcased fatherhood in a series of events and a magazine article in advance of Father's Day this Sunday. He said he came to understand the importance of fatherhood from its absence in his childhood homes — just as an estimated 24 million Americans today are growing up without a dad.

Fathers run deep in the political culture as they do everywhere else, for better and worse. Michelle Obama has said many times how her late dad, Fraser, is her reference point and rock — she checks in with him, in her mind, routinely, and at important moments.

Obama's presidential rival, John McCain, called his own memoirs "Faith of My Fathers," tracing generations of high-achieving scamps. The father-son presidencies of the George Bushes were bookends on Bill Clinton, whose father drowned in a ditch before the future president was born and whose stepfather was an abusive alcoholic nicknamed Dude.

A Kenyan goatherder-turned-intellectual who clawed his way to scholarships and Harvard, Barack Hussein Obama Sr. left a family behind to get his schooling in the United States. He started another family here, then left his second wife and 2-year-old Barack Jr. to return to Africa with another woman.

His promise flamed out in Africa after stints working for an oil company and the government; he fell into drink and died in a car crash when his son was 21, a student at Columbia University.

"I don't want to be the kind of father I had," the president is quoted as telling a friend in a new book about him.

And in an interview Friday with CBS News, Obama said: "It was only later in life that I found out that he actually led a very tragic life. And in that sense, it was the myth that I was chasing as opposed to knowing who he really was."

His half-sister, Maya, called his memoirs "part of the process of excavating his father."

Obama now cajoles men to be better fathers — not the kind who must be unearthed in the soul.

His finger-wagging is most pointed when addressing other black men, reflecting years of worry about the fabric of black families and single mothers, but it applies to everyone.

Father's Day 2007: "Let's admit to ourselves that there are a lot of men out there that need to stop acting like boys; who need to realize that responsibility does not end at conception; who need to know that what makes you a man is not the ability to have a child but the courage to raise a child."

Father's Day 2008: "Any fool can have a child. That doesn't make you a father. It's the courage to raise a child that makes you a father."

Father's Day 2009: "We need to step out of our own heads and tune in. We need to turn off the television and start talking with our kids, and listening to them, and understanding what's going on in their lives."

He doesn't hold himself out as the ideal dad. No driven politician can.

"I know I have been an imperfect father," he writes in Sunday's Parade magazine. "I know I have made mistakes. I have lost count of all the times, over the years, when the demands of work have taken me from the duties of fatherhood."

He volunteered for those demands, as all people do when they want power. His years as a community organizer, Illinois lawmaker, U.S. senator and presidential candidate often kept him apart from family.

At the same time, he went to great lengths in the 2008 campaign to find time with his girls and wife, and now considers the routine family time one of the joys of living and working in the White House.

The new book "Renegade" by Richard Wolffe recounts strains in the marriage early this decade, arising from his absences and from what Michelle Obama apparently considered his selfish careerism at the time. The author interviewed the Obamas, friends and associates.

Obama himself attributed his "fierce ambitions" to his dad while crediting his mother — a loving but frequently absent figure — with giving him the means to pursue them.

"Someone once said that every man is trying to either live up to his father's expectations or make up for his father's mistakes," he once wrote, "and I suppose that may explain my particular malady as well as anything else." By malady, he meant the will to achieve.

Obama was a schoolboy in Hawaii when his father came back to visit. He gave his dad a tie. His father gave him a basketball and African figurines and came to his class to speak about Kenya. He was an impressive, mysterious figure whom Obama found compelling, volatile and vaguely threatening.

The visit took a sour turn when Obama went to watch "How the Grinch Stole Christmas" and his father made him shut off the TV, saying he watched too much. Obama slammed the bedroom door; a loud argument ensued among grown-ups.

Not the quality time Obama has in mind in asking dads to turn off the TV now.


HAPPY Father's Day Navy Dads! I think President Obama is right on the money here, such an important message to Dads that may need a little reminder of what it is to be a father.
Comment by Bob, Andy's dad on May 4, 2009 at 9:01am
I have only recentlyfound this group. I am glad to see it. The politics of this nation are an important issue, especially, I believe to our military. I entered the Navy in the waning days of Jimmy Carter. I was not even old enough to vote when Carter defeated Ford. Iwas honored to serve with Ronald Reagan as my Commander-in-Chief, and with Bush 41. I will go ahead and go on record to say that in my "opinion" RWR was the greatest president since Lincoln. Granted, I am not a great student of history, but, I have read some. Anyway, I have been reading some of the comments on this group. There are some very well-thought words being written. Thank you very much. Today on my email, I received an email from my Senator, the Hon. Bob Corker (R) of Tennessee. His email was to inform me of the actions taken recently concerning the "Aid" given GM. Now I am sure that we've all heard and read all about this in the news. This email was to telling me that our U.S. Gov. had actually fired the CEO of GM. It has also dismissed an large number of it's board and has began the process of "helping" GM determine the types of cars it will build in the future. Also, just this past week, I read that if the BCS cannot come up with a suitable play-off process for college football, "Congress" may have to intervene. Can you see where this is going? Mr. Obama seems to have stepped beyond the executive powers of the office. My reading of the Constitution leads me to believe that the gov. is to "ensure domestic tranquility", which I had always assumed meant that they have the authority to keep the internal peace with law enforcement and such. I did not think that the mandate to "promote the general welfare" meant to give welfare to everyone too lazy to work. We all know very well, many people who are perfectly able to work who are "artists." They "draw" for their living. I have relatives who do this, so, I see it. I don't like it, but, they don't listen to me. What I see in the media is now longer a system of checks and balances as the founding fathers designed, but, an elected official who determines what and how things should be done, a representative body................................. sorry, the laughter over took me, an representative body that writes the bill for which he asks and a judicial body that determines that it's lawful for him to do as he pleases. If any of these blow-hards were really looking out for the best interest of our country, they would live on their millions they have already (I say this very tongue-in-cheek) "earned" and allow their salaries to go toward the national debt. Take Mr. Obama, for instance. His income in 2008 was 2.7 million. So, he takes a job that pays 400K. It's gotta be for the greater good, right? Now, I know that W. was also a million-aire. Same goes for him. I will stop rambling for now. It's just good to be able to let it go. I am a pastor of a church of a large denomination and can't speak politics just any where. Whew! I feel better now.
Comment by John Meheski on April 10, 2009 at 10:18am
No this is funny!
I recently asked my friend's little girl what she wanted
to be when she grows up. She said she wanted to be President
some day.

Both of her parents, liberal Democrats, were standing
there, so I asked her, "If you were President what
would be the first thing you would do?"

She replied immediately, "I'd give food and houses
to all the homeless people." Her parents beamed.

"Wow... what a worthy goal," I told her.
"But you don't have to wait until you're
President to do that. You can come over to my house and mow
the lawn, pull weeds, and sweep my sidewalks, and I'll
pay you $50. Then I'll take you over to the grocery
store where the homeless guy hangs out, and you can give him
the $50 to use toward food and a new house."

She thought that over for a few seconds, then she looked me
straight in the eye and asked, 'Why doesn't the
homeless guy come over and do the work, and you can just pay
him the $50?'

I said, "Welcome to the Republican Party!"

Her parents still aren't speaking to me.
 

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