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Comment by Michele on October 27, 2008 at 9:26am
Everywhere and anywhere I can. . . .television - all the networks, internet - from AOL to Yahoo and on, newspapers - local and national, and others - usually elderly or folks much older than I that have experienced much more than I.
Comment by Luis on October 27, 2008 at 9:16am
Michele, out of curiosity where do you go to for your news?
Comment by Michele on October 27, 2008 at 9:15am
Not upset :) trying to make sense of the non-'sense' we are being fed through the filtered media.
Comment by Luis on October 27, 2008 at 9:10am
Dear friends I AM NOT STATING THAT ANYBODY IS A SOCIALIST!

As a Free thinking American I feel and think that Obama's policies are Socialistic, I did not refer this to anybody on this site. People say that President Bush is a warmonger and I say that Obama is a Socialist. There is no reason to get upset about someone stating a comment.
Comment by Michele on October 27, 2008 at 9:04am
Again, I want to claim that I am not politically knowledgeable all I know is what I see and feel happening in my home, city, state, relatives lives, etc...I appreciate the definition submitted Luis. If I look at the different definitions I think we are already surrounded by socialism. When I purchased my very first property at the age of 23 I wasn't aware of the unspoken law that if the county, state, or federal government needs my property they can take it for whatever price they see fit fair. If I am driving down the road and any law enforcement officer decides they need my car I have to hand it over to them and I am left to figure out how to get it back (hopefully undamaged). The part of the definition that says means of production are owned and controlled by the state. . .shoot I see more and more of this happening, our government is controlling us like puppets, but yet the majority of us find it easier to keep giving up our rights then try to fight the government - we all know the feds always win. How is any of this and much more I haven't mentioned not socialism??
Comment by Luis on October 27, 2008 at 8:34am
This is what Socialism means to me. This is what Obama is going to bring to the White House.

Main Entry: so·cial·ism
Function: noun
Date: 1837

1: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
2 a: a system of society or group living in which there is no private property b: a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state
3: a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done
Comment by Kenorian on October 27, 2008 at 8:30am
Now that I've established myself as as a non-judgmental person, I can share some of my thoughts!

First, what's socialism to you? We pay at least a third of our gross income to support the public good - everything from roads to utilities to armies, etc. We haven't recently had government ownership of private companies, though we did in the past, i.e. during WWII. Like then, the current equity investment in the financial industry will be finite in duration.

So, I don't think we really have any risk of true socialism. We do stand to have more government involvement in certain areas. Is this good or bad? For the majority of my life I've thought it was bad - and I've voted Republican six out of the eight times I've voted. Purely on economic issues I have come to the belief that uncontrolled free markets will ultimately create a smaller and smaller - but richer and richer upper class. While capitalism may be the most efficient economic system - it doesn't make provision for greed and unjust personal gain. And, I have an MBA and work on Wall Street.....

In terms of foreign policy, the days of being able to control other countries by carrying a big stick are quite clearly over. The mightiest armed forces in the world, and we haven't won a war in decades. Look at Korea, Vietnam, the middle east.... Some have derided Obama for saying he would talk to anyone without pre-condition. I really believe in that. I mean, WWJD...? Can you imagine Him trying to influence people with power before conversation?

I am not a total pacifist. I believe that we need to have a strong defense, and am not ignorant to the fact that many would like to destroy a democratic way of life. But, the bellicose approach of the past eight years, while establishing a tenuous level of control in Iraq has created many more enemies who will one day seek to take up arms against us - and that has not been necessary.


Only my $0.02
Comment by Kevin on October 27, 2008 at 8:19am
Michele, love the "solution", but hope that ACORN doesn't help them register...
Comment by Luis on October 27, 2008 at 6:30am
I agree with Kenorian and with EG. There is truth in the Democratic as well as in the Republican Party, neither holds the exact truth since "The Truth" belongs to only one man who said "I Am the Way, The Truth and the Life."

Unfortunatly I also believe that Barry Obama is a Socialist even though he might be a decent man and Socialism is going to be bad for America. I trust in God and in the wisdom of our nation that we can survive an Obama administration but I feel that the damage will take years to clean up. For starters he will fill the courts with Liberal judges he will govern based on their political ideology.

Socialism was put to work in Cuba and look what has happened. Now Socialism has destroyed Venezuela and it has made Canada and Europe the week entities that they are today. I pray to God that Obama has a long and healthy life but I hope that it doesn't start in the White House.

As Joe Biden said "Mark my words" we will re-live the Jimma Carter days when and if Obama gets in. I was never a John McCain man, I personally voted for Mitt but John McCain has been tested and he will protect our nation from the evils that confront her.

Luis
Comment by Michele on October 26, 2008 at 7:38am
I FOUND THE SOLUTION!!! :)

 

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