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 Hey I am back again with a bit of information and a bunch of opinion.....

    This continues to be one of the hardest things I have ever had to sit on my hands and let happen. He called his mother yesterday and started his conversation by telling her how sorry he was he had let us and everyone pulling for him down, see after his initial fail on his run he was segregated from his shipmates and this is really sticking in my crawl the Navy spent the first seven weeks this young man was there making him understand that it was all about the "team" that above all else the team must succeed then at the one precise time that he needs his shipmates they move him out into another barracks with people he has no connection to, how is this designed to improve his feeling of belonging to something greater than himself? think about this if you will just for a second am I the only one that this seems wrong to? I know that they have their standard hell I used to hold fast to it training military troops myself and like I said it seems like it does because it is one of mine. All I can see is this young man that goes from qualifying Expert with the 9mm on top of the world to being told get your stuff we gotta move you.

       He managed to get his time down to 12 seconds in a week and for this reward you get to sit and listen to everyone else having their moment of glory just sit there and know today there is no team, today you sit here away from all of that, sit here and wallow in the short comings you have displayed. I know the whole argument you can't change the standards for one because you would have to do it for all; and on the grand scale all is a lot. All I can see is the the teenage boy that felt he didn't belong anywhere had no friends  to speak of and stayed shut away in his room to getting letters from him stating he was exactly where he belongs that "I have 88 brothers and we all answer to the same name and move at the same speed" I know that in the long run it will hopefully all work out and he may still indeed have a long and illustrious career in the navy and I know this is not even close to the worst he will see but it has to be one of his darker moments and in a organization that relies on teamwork he once again feels like he is an outsider.

     I know this young man and I fear that in his mind he is just as alone now as he was before he got there no buddies to look out for him or to look out for no shipmates to have your back when things hit the fan no none at all.  I have many many years in which I was in or working for the DOD and I know all to well the way things work but this young man that wasn't allowed to call for over a week,  had not received one piece of his mail not one letter. We all have been in a frantic dash trying to do our part to keep his morale and spirits high and he has not gotten one bit of it. No words of encouragement no "you got this" nothing, nada, zip, zero, zilch,  all he had to keep him company was continued failure in a place that was designed because people fail but I know from experience that if you keep them in a place that the bonds have been formed performance increases, morale increases, and overall unity increases and in the grand scheme of things by week seven these men and women have formed bonds that they will defend bonds that will make them look to and at each other for the strength they need to accomplish the task at hand.

    You want him to succeed line the running track with the same shipmates he has relied on and have relied on him, put them on that track beside him pushing him driving him on, showing him he is part of a big picture not make him wait here and watch as the people he has been through one of the hardest things he has ever done form up and march away, march away as you stand there in your own mind saying wait what about me? we are a team we look out for each other, we support each other or at least that is what they told him. That is the bill of goods he was sold that is where I have the problem. They are told and rewarded for thinking of their shipmates first before themselves praised and given commendations but yet when one falls behind you are now saying go on every man for themselves?

      I have been told by many to "do nothing" or the ever popular "there's nothing you can do" well I just do not believe that can not believe that. There are to many things built into the process he is involved in for there to be nothing I can do I know the way the military works and I know that some where is just the right person for me to call or talk to that can help me in the matter at hand. I apologize for the lack of eloquence in this entry in to my mind but as you can probably tell is just a little mentally overloaded.  ...

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Comment by Scott LaPlante on July 9, 2013 at 11:32pm

Good stuff, Ron!!!  Congratulations to Jarad!!  Effort and determination pays off. 

Comment by NavyDads Admin (Paul) on July 9, 2013 at 10:14pm

Bravo Ron!!!  He dug deep and did what he had to............

Comment by Ron Jones on July 9, 2013 at 9:55pm

First off I want to say thank you for your input and well wishes and I can gladly report that yesterday after many many tense days  and even more without hearing anything (may I add those seemed to go on forever like time slowed) Jarad not only passed his run he did it in 12:08 and if you will indulge me I want to recount the story he told me. He said as he started his run he looked over and Chief came down and took to the track to run with him, now every time before he had run with Chief he had not been able to keep up the pace the Chief set always falling back but this time, this time he kept that pace never faltered kept on running lap after lap waiting for his knee to give up on him or his breath to start that stitch in his side but not this time he kept running never feeling any of that stuff; just running with Chief he said he wasn't even counting laps just running. As they came out of the turn on the track the Chief started to slow first to a trot then he slowed to a walk and as he did Chief said " Jones what did I tell you would happen if you ran with me?" to which Jarad replied "you said if I ran with you I would pass Chief" at that point Chief turned extended his hand and said "congratulations Son you passed" and he finished by saying "Dad every other time I ran by the last 3 or 4 laps my knee was hurting so bad I would finish with tears running down my cheeks every time, not this time". He never quit all the pain and lack of breath he kept on going. He also confessed something else to me, he said his first run was 16:20, that means he cut his time by over 25% 4+ minutes off his time. I am so very very proud to be Jarad's dad, He told me almost 2wks ago that he had been running and was starting to falter slowing more and more and as he closed his eyes he heard " DIG, DIG, DIG, DON'T YOU QUIT, HOW BAD DO YOU WANT IT?? NOW RUN, and when he opened his eyes he saw the face mask of his football helmet and could hear his pads rattling and he was back at midget league football practice and I was the Coach the voice he heard was mine and he started to run finding that little something that kept him going. The last thing he said that day to me was "dad can you say it to me I need to hear you say it" and I said J You Got This, You Got This to which he replied Dad if you still believe that I do too. He Passed his run now its on to the first available battle stations and getting capped, he won't get a PIR no pomp and circumstance and I don't care that still sucks no other way to put it but he will have a long and successful life serving in the finest Navy on the face of the earth.

Comment by Hello2u on July 9, 2013 at 1:40pm

I'm just glad it wasn't family separating him, that is why I tell my kids, be prepared for the world, it often lets you down, but I will still be here for you!  blessings

Comment by Navy Dads Co-Admin Tom on July 8, 2013 at 12:14pm

Ron...any update?

 

Comment by Ron Jones on June 23, 2013 at 6:04pm

Gentlemen and Ladies as it may be trust me I know all the sentiments that you convey and take offense at none as I stated in the blog I have spent many many years either in or working for good ol Uncle Sugar. I myself have held strong to the standards many times and know all to well that they are there for the betterment of the unit as a whole. Please as I have said do not think for a moment that I just don't understand the inner workings of the US Military machine because I do probably better than most. This is a Blog a collection of thought and feeling a place to vent in public so to speak agree or disagree that is your right as is the right to convey controversial (somewhat) views (within reason) for such review by people like yourselves. I stated in that blog entry that chances are my son will go on to have a long career in the Navy and I am sure this aint nothing, so please go ahead you will not hurt my feelings but also comment with just stance and a firm understanding of my point otherwise you are just throwing stones and we all know that old adage

Comment by Navy Dads Co-Admin Tom on June 23, 2013 at 4:04pm

Ron....I read your blog and hesitated to respond as I wanted to think my response out. I didn't wish to offend you with any of my words....but the situation is "what it is". All of us can relate as parents...but the Navy does not exist relative to our rules as Mothers and Fathers. Teamwork is the very basic building block of any military setting. The entire team cannot just stop due to the loss of one, but must learn to carry on with the absence of a key member. To quote a movie...."The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the one"... 

   While it is not the way that you had hoped for your SR, he will learn a valuable lesson as he progresses to PIR...the mission comes first! He is not alone, but rather, part of a "new" group that will depend on each other to help each member succeed in their progression to graduation. It is a lesson that he would have learned down the line when transferred to a new Command. It is indeed difficult to step back as a parent and watch your Son or Daughter succeed or fail on their own without intervening...but that is exactly where you find yourself today. I have no doubt that he will make his way throgh this struggle...and be stronger for it! Life is a series of lessons...but somehow we all find our way! We are all pulling for your son....Let us know as he finds his way!

Comment by Paul Pitchford on June 20, 2013 at 9:34pm
Ron while reading this i can only imagine what your son is going thru. Though my son was not always the best braying football or baseball from when he was 6 years old he never gave up and kept working hard. Never getting alot of play time he had great work ethic and never gave up, senior year of high school he played more because of the detication that gave to both sports that he dearly loves. Said simply, keep up the support for him and encoragement he will succeed! keep the faith man.
Comment by NavyDads Admin (Paul) on June 20, 2013 at 7:42am

Brutal as it sounds, this is the way it is.  If he doesn't make the time should the Navy hold his division back for him or not?  There is no one you can call...either he succeeds on his own or he doesn't.  Realize that not calling for a week or two means nothing in the greater scheme.....he may be at sea or deployed to some location where he make not be able to call for a weeks and weeks....it's part of the military and you're gonna have to deal with it. And realize that that you have to separate the "my boy" from "the sailor"---- nothing at boot camp is impossible, but it is structured for the recruits to test themselves.  That is the real goal of the 8 weeks - to show that the sailors can set a goal and achieve it....most do while some do not. You can push him, you can encourage him, you can prod him, you can pray for him, and you can do a million things for him, but this is up to him now....he signed the paper, he raised his right hand and took the oath and he has to ultimately do this on his own.  I've had two go though RTC - my son graduated with his division while my daughter had stress fractures and was held back a bunch of weeks....she complained about not graduating with her division, but she graduated....that's the goal.  Keep focused on the goal and not the journey.  In his Navy years he may move all over the globe and have to succeed with new shipmates constantly- better get used to it.

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