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Sometimes its not whats said, but the way its delivered.

We’ve all read the bumper sticker, “If you can read this thank a teacher. If you can read it in English thank a soldier.” This idea and common belief probably deserves a closer look.


What do soldiers protect? A language? Religion? “Freedom?” Oil? The list goes on and on. This statement speaks to a popular form of “American values.” And, is probably worthy of further thought.


Preserving culture and language is an interesting discussion. Arguments could be made either way. In a world that values tradition, preservation of language is necessary.  In a utilitarian world functioning in a multi-lingual environment is inefficient, and divisive.


What is my position? Manners. My parents had a mediocre grasp on manners in society. My grand parents were experts on the subject. I am glad to have been taught it is impolite to whisper to someone in front of others. It is also, impolite in a room full of people for a few to speak a different language in front of them.


We have all walked into a room in the workplace and then two people immediately lower their voices to a whisper. It likely has nothing to do with the person that just walked in. The conversation could range from discussions about Dr appointments to birthday presents. The conversation is clearly none of our business in the first place, but the behavior however warranted still instills some level discomfort to the adjacent audience.


When people start using all the “speak English or go home rhetoric,” in some cases they maybe racists or bigots. The majority are probably just people unable to articulate their cultural value of manners and its necessity. Another one of our sentiments is, the belief that soldiers are here to preserve our values. I dont see the problem with reminding others manners is one of our "American values."


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Comment by NavyDads Co-Admin, Gary on October 30, 2011 at 1:57pm

Amen to that Robert!...

Comment by Robert Hartman on October 30, 2011 at 1:46pm

Well said Gary!.

We all have a right to our opinions but do not hold a right for them not to be challenged by others

Comment by NavyDads Co-Admin, Gary on October 30, 2011 at 1:39pm

There you go Josh! You're absolutely right about how we act, or react, to certain stimuli most especially when taken out of your "comfort zone". Being taken out of my comfort zone is definitely nothing new to me. I've been to places where I looked like a push-pin from an aerial view. But I love people, and learning about peoples cultures and diversity. It's the "highway to the danger zone" I need to better understand - I just thought of Top Gun. Have a great Sunday...

Comment by Mr. Sailorette on October 30, 2011 at 1:25pm

Si Senior

Comment by Mr. Sailorette on October 30, 2011 at 1:24pm

Gary I do agree with your statement  “to learn and to share our experiences, to help better our overall understanding of what's to come and how it may affect us all.”

Thoughts can be articulated in various ways. The particular words used to expressed specific thoughts can deliver the same message yet reveal two different connotations. For example,“ I watched a film last night. It was about a couple, who shared every thing with each other with a deep level of intimacy, "Sorry I edited this line" (ND Creator). Both describe the same event, yet one version articulates our values differently.

When we are taken out of our comfort zone we are forced to look at our beliefs differently. Seeing our beliefs in a different way is often uncomfortable. The words I choose I realize often draw people out of their comfort zone.

What’s important is that we all are looking at our own beliefs in a deeper level. These beliefs should be explored and evaluated under different lenses. We don’t always understand why we have specific values but reappraising with alternative views help expand on own world view.

Secondary language on a military support site took me out of my comfort zone, and Robert helped me reassess my view point by explaining the need for this. I have re-evaluated my position by being out of my own comfort zone. As you said the whole point of discussion amongst peers is to share ideas and develop deeper understanding .


Comment by NavyDads Admin (Paul) on October 30, 2011 at 1:10pm

Navy doesn't have drill instructors..........

Comment by NavyDads Co-Admin, Gary on October 30, 2011 at 1:04pm

Mr. Sailorette, the last time I checked, this website is NavyDads.Com. For supporters and people who have family members and friends serving in the US Navy and Marines. We are one big family and a few common goals are to find comfort and support for one another, to learn and to share our experiences, to help better our overall understanding of what's to come and how it may affect us all.


Your blogs and posts certainly are entertaining to say the least. In your latest - your reference to "manners", I find amusing because on your previous posts you blurted out things like "I wish the germans defeated us and we all spoke german." or "The military is for poor folks..." to me those are not values and have completely nothing to do with manners but simple words of hatred and insult. But we live in a free country where everyone can pretty much say what they want to right? Now that is an "American Value". I do have a few suggestions that I know for a fact you'll get some helpful insights to your questions. Dr. Phil or possibly Jerry Springer. Have a nice day!


Comment by Gil on October 30, 2011 at 12:36pm

What a don't do business in any language other than English anyone knows that..I had it with you.  I wont waste my time with your ignorance.  Have a good life!

Comment by Mr. Sailorette on October 30, 2011 at 12:31pm

Gil it also seems that Navy statement is purely double speak. Try answering a Drill Instructor in Spanish and explain to them the new Navy embraces diversity.

Comment by Mr. Sailorette on October 30, 2011 at 11:49am

Gil, you bring up a new topic. The topic of diversity over unity. Im not sure they can coexist. When you affiliate your self with one group often times you withdraw your self from another.


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