Curious about secondary rate

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Permalink Reply by Dan on August 29, 2011 at 11:48am

You take whatever is available in the Navy.  As of June it was cook, airman undesignated, and seaman undesignated.  Different Spec Ops is an option only after some time is served in the Navy.

Permalink Reply by Brad on August 29, 2011 at 11:57am

WOW! That sounds brutal. So, is it better off to go with a different rate, then apply for SEALS once in? Also, do you give up the bonus if you don't enter as a SEAL trainee but make it later?

Permalink Reply by NavyDads Co-Admin, Calvin on August 29, 2011 at 6:34pm

If you do not make it through SEAL Training there will be no bonus and if you would like to go back and try again you will have to wait at least 2 years. There is a very limited number of slots for Fleet guys to return and there are a lot that want to go back. If you go to BUDS and get sick, hurt or preformance rolled you can only get rolled once then you are dropped. Things are changing and not sure what else is going to change.

Permalink Reply by Ken283 on August 29, 2011 at 8:01pm

Yup  they are correct..... do it the first time.  Very few get great 2nd options.

Permalink Reply by NavyDads Co-Admin, Calvin on August 29, 2011 at 8:09pm

Ken, how is your guy?

Permalink Reply by Ken283 on August 29, 2011 at 9:32pm

grandpa273 said:

Ken, how is your guy?

Permalink Reply by John Chalus on August 31, 2011 at 4:03pm

The needs of the Navy come first. I'd apply for  SWCC or an A school that would get you into SWCC. Dive School, EOD, Rescue Swimmer are also areas to look into. None of these are easy alternatives. Anything outside the areas of Spec War and Spec Ops sucks in my opinion.

Permalink Reply by John Chalus on August 31, 2011 at 4:08pm

If you are a trainee who puts out 110% you will have a shot at a roll back. My son had pneumonia and was rolled back. He also injured his back and was rolled again. He started with class 172 and finished with 174. Still better to do it right the 1st time. Never quit. The best attitude to make it through BUD/S is to say to yourself (and mean it) "They will have to kill me to get me out of BUD/S!" Dedication and attitude that is not at the level has no place in a prospective SEAL's mind.

Permalink Reply by NavyDads Co-Admin, Calvin on August 31, 2011 at 5:50pm

I believe that the Class that just started BUDS will be the first Class under the One and Done rules. Now the guys can be rolled either due to injury, sickness or performance one time only. After the one roll if something happens then you are done. There was no mention of how you have preformed in the past just One and Done. I will check and see if I can find out more on the new policy.

Permalink Reply by John Chalus on September 1, 2011 at 4:09pm

At the rate they are burning out SEALs in all the theaters of war we have going I am surprised to hear that.

Permalink Reply by Jim G on October 22, 2012 at 11:25am

Dan said:

You take whatever is available in the Navy.  As of June it was cook, airman undesignated, and seaman undesignated.  Different Spec Ops is an option only after some time is served in the Navy.

Permalink Reply by Jim G on October 22, 2012 at 11:29am

Jim G said:

My son is in pre BUD/s, what you write is devastating; I was afraid to ask the question myself. Doesn't something seem strange that our son can get a SEALs contract, prove himself eligible for highest military unit on earth, but then if he doesn't make it he has to go to the bottom of the entire Navy? So you have a bunch of "almost" Navy SEALs as cooks and undesignated seamen doing what...scrubbing ship decks? Can anyone explain the logic in this?

Dan said:

You take whatever is available in the Navy.  As of June it was cook, airman undesignated, and seaman undesignated.  Different Spec Ops is an option only after some time is served in the Navy.

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